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if pakistan takes tougher action, the aid could resume. mean while, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan, prior to arriving he talked to reporters on the plane about how he feels alg al qaeda is going right now, the war against terror. he says the strategic defeat of al qaeda is within reach, primarily pointing the the death of bin laden, the information they got from the compound including names of different key al qaeda leaders. he says this is the time to actually end the war with al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden, to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that, if we continue th
if pakistan takes tougher action, the aid could resume. mean while, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan. panetta is meeting with american military leaders and afghan officials. nbc's atia abawi is in kabul this morning. bring us up to speed on what leon panetta is saying that al qaeda is basically on the run and close to being completely stamped out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. the new secretary of defense's first trip as the defense secretary here in afghanistan,...
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including 10 to 20 names of key leaders of al qaeda, whether they be in yemen, somalia, pakistan or north and central africa. but on this trip in afghanistan panetta is expected to meet with his counterpart, the defense ministry in afghanistan, and he is also expected to have a press conference with the afghan president, hamid karzai. aside from that, the most important part of the visit is talking to the u.s. commanders on the ground here in afghanistan, talking to the u.s. servicemen and women as well who are fighting the fight within the country. right now the strategic time within the war and afghanistan, the president announced the withdrawal plan by the end of this year. 10,000 americans are supposed to leave the country by the end of next year. he's hoping another $23,000 by next year. right now the time for secretary panetta to talk to the commanders here, to the afghan government here, to see how to transition the authority they have in afghanistan back to the afghan people. >> do you think the key to targeting al qaeda is all the information taken from osama bin ladin's compound
including 10 to 20 names of key leaders of al qaeda, whether they be in yemen, somalia, pakistan or north and central africa. but on this trip in afghanistan panetta is expected to meet with his counterpart, the defense ministry in afghanistan, and he is also expected to have a press conference with the afghan president, hamid karzai. aside from that, the most important part of the visit is talking to the u.s. commanders on the ground here in afghanistan, talking to the u.s. servicemen and...
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he also revealed that up to 20 top al qaeda leaders from pakistan, yemen, and somalia were identified from laden's compound and are now on america's target list. topping that list, american-born clericÑi anwar al awlaki, leade of al qaeda in yemen, considered the greatest terrorist threat to the united states, the so-called christmas day bomber, was trained and equipped by al qaeda in yemen. panetta confirmed today that the cia has joined the u.s. military in launching air strikes aimed at taking out the leadership of al qaeda in yemen and warned the u.s. must remain relentless in pursuit of al qaeda. >> i think now is the moment, now is the moment, following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on them because i do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple al qaeda. >> reporter: despite the progress, panetta warns that al qaeda still remains a serious threat, and even after his success at the cia in bringing down bin laden, panetta says that al qaeda itself will still be a top priority of his in his new job at the pentagon. lester. >> jim mik
he also revealed that up to 20 top al qaeda leaders from pakistan, yemen, and somalia were identified from laden's compound and are now on america's target list. topping that list, american-born clericÑi anwar al awlaki, leade of al qaeda in yemen, considered the greatest terrorist threat to the united states, the so-called christmas day bomber, was trained and equipped by al qaeda in yemen. panetta confirmed today that the cia has joined the u.s. military in launching air strikes aimed at...
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this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's always pakistan is a basket case, a nuclear basket case. stay in afghanistan. >> you don't. you don't. >> it's not going to work. that is washington's argument, mike barnicle. pakistan is stabilized. we have to keep having american troops killed in afghanistan. it doesn't add up. invading cambodia is the right move when you are going into vietnam. >> continuing argument and keep making it because less than 1% of american families and american people are serving in the military in afghanistan. >> there you go. >> back to the draft. >> untouched. >> we need a draft. >> we'll
this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...
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to do that, it needs pakistan. specifically pakistani intelligence, and right now oar going to see the indians place on the terrorism front to try to get the united states to do that, but the united states has a very delicate relationship right now to maintain with spark tan, and india's likely going to be disappointed with us, and already ununnerved by the idea of the u.s. and pakistan negotiating a deal that could leave the ichbdance vulnerable on a national security front. >> dave, one last question, away from india, what is going on with the assassination of karzai's brother, and do we know who did that? there's speculation of everybody from the cia to drug lords to the taliban. >> absolutely. that speculation is still runs. it's not clear whether his absence will have that big of a stabilizing effect. from the united states point of view karzai's brother caused a lot of problems, he was always playing a double game, but he managed a lot of relationships. he had the charisma to maintain that network. for karzai
to do that, it needs pakistan. specifically pakistani intelligence, and right now oar going to see the indians place on the terrorism front to try to get the united states to do that, but the united states has a very delicate relationship right now to maintain with spark tan, and india's likely going to be disappointed with us, and already ununnerved by the idea of the u.s. and pakistan negotiating a deal that could leave the ichbdance vulnerable on a national security front. >> dave, one...
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is potentially going to hold back aid to pakistan. explain the ripple effect that will have when it comes to afghanistan and our troops that are still there. >> reporter: thomas, what i can tell you is what i've heard from the men and women, the american men and women on the ground here in afghanistan, the commanders on the ground as well. they'll tell you right now they don't know where that money is going, the money that's aiding the pakistani military to fight the taliban on the other side of the border. they feel that that money is being wasted because they don't think they're doing a good enough job. so i'm sure many of the men and women here on the bases throughout afghanistan will support that decision. i know from officials in washington, they say the pakistani military have done a lot in fighting the taliban, but many will also tell you, and it eelgs something we've seen in the wikileaks, they'll tell you they haven't done enough. they've been using that money not necessarily to fight the battle on this side of the border, bu
is potentially going to hold back aid to pakistan. explain the ripple effect that will have when it comes to afghanistan and our troops that are still there. >> reporter: thomas, what i can tell you is what i've heard from the men and women, the american men and women on the ground here in afghanistan, the commanders on the ground as well. they'll tell you right now they don't know where that money is going, the money that's aiding the pakistani military to fight the taliban on the other...
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not just in the northwest of pakistan. not just in afghanistan, but as a conduit for weapons equipment, money, and recruits to al qaeda operations and the taliban operations every where. very bad place, and no matter what the pakistani government says, it's not helping like it should to get rid of these guys. >> all right. >> by the way, we're as i understanding them billions of dollars. >> just to make that point and everyone go, oh. thank you very much, jack jacobs. >> you're welcome. >>> now to weekend weather. the northeast is drying out this morning after torrential ransz. in connecticut the cromwell had firefighters responded to flooding at the station. firefighters had the playing sand bagged try to keep the water from seeping in. nbc meteorologist bill karins, good morning to you, bill. >> good morning, alex. we got rid of all the bad stuff on friday. that was the good thing. we have watched a nice clearing trend in new england. a beautiful morning in the mid-atlantic. now it's starting to heat up. the sun is beati
not just in the northwest of pakistan. not just in afghanistan, but as a conduit for weapons equipment, money, and recruits to al qaeda operations and the taliban operations every where. very bad place, and no matter what the pakistani government says, it's not helping like it should to get rid of these guys. >> all right. >> by the way, we're as i understanding them billions of dollars. >> just to make that point and everyone go, oh. thank you very much, jack jacobs. >>...
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the fbi has arrested a man accused of being an agent for pakistan state intelligence service who alledgedly funneled $2 million in contributions to u.s. political candidates and organizations without disclosing his connections to the pakistani government. the fbi says the man's goal was to tilt u.s. policy against indiana control in kashmir. >>> the justice department says 14 people have been arrested in nine states and district of columbia for allegedly mounting a cyber attack on the pay pal website. the group anonymous claimed responsibility calling it retaliation for the site's suspension of wikileaks accounts. >>> a mother and her three young daughters died when their vehicle drove into a washed out section of a wyoming highway and was swept away by a raging creek. only the father managed to escape. >>> in california, witnesses say a hiker was swept over a water fall at yoe accept itity national park. a search and rescue operation will resume in the morning. >>> this morning in shanghai, yao ming announced his retirement due to injuries. david stern called the chinese star, quote, a tes
the fbi has arrested a man accused of being an agent for pakistan state intelligence service who alledgedly funneled $2 million in contributions to u.s. political candidates and organizations without disclosing his connections to the pakistani government. the fbi says the man's goal was to tilt u.s. policy against indiana control in kashmir. >>> the justice department says 14 people have been arrested in nine states and district of columbia for allegedly mounting a cyber attack on the...
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>> the kind of thing like in pakistan. go after people, use drones. you have to deal with the places we can't occupy. they might have be be september in to operate from time to time. >>> this mornings must read opinion pages and infrastruct e infrastructure. we'll be right back. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ >>> welcome back to "morning joe." time for the must read opinion pages. we start with "the new york times" negotiating on a knife's edge. mr. obama, this is the paper's editorial and it says this. mr. obama might want to consider the advice of several constitutional scholars who say congress may not be able to put the govern in -- such a declaration would lead to litigation or attempts to impeachment. if republicans reach a deal or if democrats will not support it because it leans too heavily on the less fortunate, the constitutional option may look better than the recession option. people are worried about where the country is going. >> j-o-b-s. i
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s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he said the president, quote, failed us, because the recession is deeper because of our president. but when asked if he agreed with the assessment, former governor john huntsman skirted the issue focusing on what he and his fellow candidates can offer voters. >> some are you are republicans, independents, unaffiliated. i understand that. all i can say is take a look at where we've been, done, and stand for, where we hope to take the country, make an informed decision, then come back and talk to us. a. >> rivals bachmann toured new england. gingrich said he's committed to spending 16
s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he...
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now it looks like we have lost pakistan. have we lost pakistan? if so, why and was it inevitable. >> i think we are losing pakistan. i don't know if we have lost it yet. if we disengage intelligently and engage in the umbrella i have been talking about, her happens we will lose it all together. i think the fault is two way. first of all, we have never been really consistently and comprehensively sensitive to the political interests in having a secure backyard in afghanistan. we just haven't. resently, we played with indi s indians. we give a super nuclear deal to the indians. we did not give it to the pakistanis. there's resentment there. pakistan is coming undone on its own. it's not all our undoing. there's a conflict between the army and society at large. divisions between the army and the military and intelligence. ethnic differences. regional differences in pakistan. plus, this overwhelming obsession with india. so, pakistan is in trouble largely, not entirely, but largely because of its own position. >> dr. brzezinski, good morning, it's wil
now it looks like we have lost pakistan. have we lost pakistan? if so, why and was it inevitable. >> i think we are losing pakistan. i don't know if we have lost it yet. if we disengage intelligently and engage in the umbrella i have been talking about, her happens we will lose it all together. i think the fault is two way. first of all, we have never been really consistently and comprehensively sensitive to the political interests in having a secure backyard in afghanistan. we just...
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particularly in places like somalia and pakistan. what's driving them to join these organizations is not cartoons. it's irresponsible parents who are trying to put their own political ideals in their kids. that's what we should be going after. not the cartoons. >> remember in the israeli-palestinian conflict when it was said the conflict itself would never end until moms loved their children more than they hated the israelis. i think in this case with al qaeda, much the same could be said. >> yep. that's true. >> thanks. >>> congress is still trying to negotiate a deal on the debt ceiling. there have been warnings about the impact on the u.s. economy. but it will also have an impact on you and your town. >>> plus an update on the memphis school shutdown over a $55 million tab. the city sent the school system $3 million so far. will the doors open on august 8th as planned? i talk with both sides of that debate. ben and his family live on this block. ben's a re/max agent, and he's a big part of this community. re/max agents know their
particularly in places like somalia and pakistan. what's driving them to join these organizations is not cartoons. it's irresponsible parents who are trying to put their own political ideals in their kids. that's what we should be going after. not the cartoons. >> remember in the israeli-palestinian conflict when it was said the conflict itself would never end until moms loved their children more than they hated the israelis. i think in this case with al qaeda, much the same could be...
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navy zeals when they invatd bin laden's compound in pakistan show the strains inside bin laden's terror network. he was spending as much time dealing with al qaeda's struggles as he was dealing with no terror attacks. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what's this information telling us? >> a great deal about the organization which was now fragmented, difficult to control and finance. apparently riddled with trade traitors. it demonstrates that osama bin laden was obsessed with the follow up attack on the united states after 9/11. despite the fact that lots oof people in the organization wanted to work harder to establish a -- across the muslim war. he was focused on the united states and a big follow up, a big splashy attack which never occurred. >> all this from this new report in "the washington post" telling us al qaeda groups were complaining about the drone attacks which shows that they were working. >> they were indeed. matter of fact a large number of complaints about drone attacks. he himself in several emails talked about his concern that his ranks were being thinned. the
navy zeals when they invatd bin laden's compound in pakistan show the strains inside bin laden's terror network. he was spending as much time dealing with al qaeda's struggles as he was dealing with no terror attacks. good morning. >> good morning, alex. >> what's this information telling us? >> a great deal about the organization which was now fragmented, difficult to control and finance. apparently riddled with trade traitors. it demonstrates that osama bin laden was...
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talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we should say first of all president obama campaigned on a promise to go up against these bush era policies declaring war on the world, running secret sites, torturing prisoners. deeply involved in an underground dungeon officially run by the somali national security agency, but their salaries are paid by the cia directly. in fact, one somali agent described thousand hairli ed ho and paid by u.s. agents and the u.s. is interrogating prisoners, including those rendered by the kenyan government, snatched off the streets in nairobi based on u.s. intelligence and taken to this secret p
talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we...
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finally let me turn to pakistan. we all accept the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tackling violent extreme as in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps he has taken for british support of counter-terrorism in pakistan at the heart of our relationship to the pakistan government. we all want to see british troops come home at the earliest opportunity, not least all the families and friends of those who are currently serving in afghanistan. we also want to see the campaign concluded in a way that ensures their service and sacrifice has not been in vain and afghanistan and a wider region moves into a stable future rather than once again posing a serious threat to our security and
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in iraq and afghanistan beyond when we're not going to have war, you know, we're not going to attack pakistan, they can declare that as a saving too. but here's the problem, and the congressman stated it well. there are aspects of the two plans that are acceptable, and the president has vetoed those, and that is why mitch mcconnell is saying to harry reid, look, you're not going to impose your plan on a senate, 47 members who are republicans, we're going to have to deal. and i think they are going to deal, alex. they're going to send something back over to the house, and i think the house will probably have to pass it on monday or tuesday. >> okay. morris, did you think harry reid has given up too many with this bill, and do you think he's going to have to give up more to get republican support? >> i think there's going to be a lot of compromise. and remember, compromise is not a bad word. in this town, some days compromise seems like a bad word, but that's what you do when you negotiate. when you don't have an absolute majority, you have to give a little to get a little. and for some reason,
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this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's absolutely right. on his flight from d.c. to kabul he did speak to reporter on the plane that he was on about al qaeda and said that the strategic defeat of al qaeda was within reach, pointing to the death of osama bin laden, pointing to the information that we were able to retrieve from his compound, including the names of key leaders that they'd like to go after. and he says that this is the time to go after al qaeda. let's listen to what he had to say. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on them. because i do believe that if we continue this effort, that we can really
this report out of the "new york times" says the aid could resume if pakistan takes tougher action against the taliban as well as al qaeda. meanwhile, defense secretary leon panetta is in afghanistan as i was mentioning. panetta is meeting with american military leaders as well as afghan officials. atia abawi is in kabul, afghanistan. he's making strong remarks when it comes to al qaeda and how he wants to continue stamping them out. >> reporter: good morning, thomas. that's...
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because then pakistan has to fend for itself. pakistan has to value this. i fear that all intelligence, diplomat, security people go for training to india. despite all my offers all along for free training in pakistan, not one came to pakistan. then of course, internally, pakistan ladies and gentleman has to be against extremism in our society other than terrorism, al qaeda, taliban. extremism in our society. stop the use and promotion of militancy from mosques of pakistan. stop publications, handbills, posters, pamphlets, urging people towards militancy, extremism. ban publications. ben distribution and selling. -- and distribution and selling. turkey has banned all promotion of extremism of terrorism at home and and abroad. lastly, eve of a strategy to mainstream -- evolve a strategy to mainstream the taliban. lastly, on a tactical issue, maybe the pakistan army has been overstretched. the better way of dealing, i personally think, is through a second line reinforcement. we need to equip them with tanks and guns, make them strong enough. because they are
because then pakistan has to fend for itself. pakistan has to value this. i fear that all intelligence, diplomat, security people go for training to india. despite all my offers all along for free training in pakistan, not one came to pakistan. then of course, internally, pakistan ladies and gentleman has to be against extremism in our society other than terrorism, al qaeda, taliban. extremism in our society. stop the use and promotion of militancy from mosques of pakistan. stop publications,...
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and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the figures what difference does it make whether it's 54 or 94 or 150. you met with the governor of texas, rick perry. what was that about? >> nothing. he wanted to meet. maybe exchange views on what it would be. >> did you get the impression he is thinking of running for president? >> well, i think i did, yes. >> you think he will? >> you need to ask him, but i did get that impression. >> i agree and i think he will run, but i haven't met with him. you came away from the meeting thinking he is going to run? >> yes. >> let's talk about you a little bit. how do you feel? >> i hope i am
and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the...
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finally let me turn to pakistan. we all acct the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tacklin violent extreme in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps he has taken for british support of counter-terrorism in pakistan at the heart of our relationship to the pakistan government. we all want to see british troops come home at the earliest opportunity, not least all the families and friends of those who are currently serving in afghanistan. we also want to see the campaign concluded in a way that ensures their service and sacrifice has not been in vain and afghanistan and a wider region moves into a stable future rather than once again posing a serious threat to our security and other
finally let me turn to pakistan. we all acct the long-term stability in afghanistan depends on stability in pakistan. when i met president zadari. like amended the pakistan's security forces in tacklin violent extreme in the northwest of the country but as the prime ministers said the situation in pakistan continues to be serious. there's a danger that the death of osama bin laden which should be welcomed on all sides will not have that effect in pakistan. i asked him there for what steps he...
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the move comes after pakistan expelled american military trainers in response to the military commando raid which killed osama bin laden. the $800 million figure is a little more than a third of the more than $2 billion the u.s. gives to pakistan in security aid each year. >>> in spain today at least 10 people were hurt after running with the bulls. it happened just about every year and the pictures are dramatic. some of the runners fell and were trampled during the event. they were taken to near by hospitals for treatment. the bull run is held every year, weekend runs can be the most dangerous because the streets are most crowded during those days. >>> in other news of the world, in russia hope is fading of finding more survivors after a tourist boat sank. 101 people are still missing tonight from the accident and the reservoir on the volga river. 85 people made it to shore alive, two bodies have been recovered. one survivor said two other ships in the area did not help those in the water, although survivors were waving frankicly for help. >>> in india, at least 60 people were killed
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>> it would require pakistan to prove and the u.s. secretary of state to confirm that the pakistanis are genuinely helping out in tracking down terrorists and helping out in the investigation into how bin laden was able to hide out there for so many years. the gop chair woman says the restrictions are necessary to make sure pakistan uses u.s. aid "in the right way"? if they want to receive u.s. dollar there's is no longary blank check. no longer business as usual. they have to respond to our questions and cooperate and share information or the buck stops here. >> the bill also would put conditions on aid to egypt, lebanon, yemen and palestinian authority. although it does include a provision to allow the president to waive the requirements for reasons of national security. >> shepard: some democrats have reservations about this, right? >> in part because it would apply to aid on all levels. military, in it tell against and civilian assistance. the top democrat on the committee contends that u.s. dollars that help strengthen pakistani'
>> it would require pakistan to prove and the u.s. secretary of state to confirm that the pakistanis are genuinely helping out in tracking down terrorists and helping out in the investigation into how bin laden was able to hide out there for so many years. the gop chair woman says the restrictions are necessary to make sure pakistan uses u.s. aid "in the right way"? if they want to receive u.s. dollar there's is no longary blank check. no longer business as usual. they have to...
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pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal? $800 million of aids has been suspended. >> both sides are working together on a number of things and pakistan is not happy with the pace of delivery of assistance. americans are not happy with the pace of delivery of certain deliverables from pakistan. it happens sometimes. right now because pakistan is a fledgling democracy and everything that happens there hits the media and there's an american domestic political context in which everything becomes an issue because of the way people react to your administration. this has become -- >> the reaction in pakistan to the u.s. decis
pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal?...
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pakistan has yet to prove which side they are really on. so much so that when osama bin laden was taken out by the american military we did not trust pakistan enough to even tell them that we were going to -- we were going to come into their country. our distrust against that country has been proven over and over again since that date. on may 16 "the wall street journal" reported that over 40% of the money that pakistan requests for reimbursement for military aid is denied by the federal government because those claims are unfounded by the federal government. in one case last year the united states paid millions of dollars to refurbish four helicopters to help pakistan's army transport troops into battle against the taliban. but it turned out that pakistan diverted three of those aircraft to peace keeping duties in sudan prakeses which pakistan receives compensation from the united nations. other claims include a $26 million charge for barbed wire and pickets and $70 million for radar maintenance although there's no enemy air threat related
pakistan has yet to prove which side they are really on. so much so that when osama bin laden was taken out by the american military we did not trust pakistan enough to even tell them that we were going to -- we were going to come into their country. our distrust against that country has been proven over and over again since that date. on may 16 "the wall street journal" reported that over 40% of the money that pakistan requests for reimbursement for military aid is denied by the...
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pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures where you can turn the aid back on. >> so how do they get there, fran? is this simply a slap on the wrist or is it a real threat by the obama administration, that, look, they are fed up with pakistan and they are not going to deal with them in the same way? >> no, it's much more than a mere slap on the wrist? i don't think the administration wanted to find themselves having to get to the point. there's tremendous public pressure and congress for them to use this, and the problem is it's one of national pride. what you are seeing is pak
pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures...
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to do that, pakistan needs america's money. bbc news, washington. >>> nearly two years after those american hikers were captured and taken to an iranian prison the only one to be released is pushing to bring her friend and fiance home. sarah shourd organized a rally in duluth, minnesota, for shane bauer and josh fattal, hoping to bring attention back to the men. the iranians accuse the hikers of being american spies. the hikers say they accidentally wandered across the border. >>> the royal couple, they are back home today after a whirlwind hollywood weekend. and yes, even tinseltown seemed a little bit star-r-ruck by wills and kate. bob woodruff was there for every single squeal. >> reporter: on thth final day of their north american tour, a greeting fit for rock stars. >> oh my goodness! >> i shook his hand. it was so exciting. look, i'm shaking. >> they're shaking hands, they're talking to the children, they're accepting their flowers, they're just lovely. >> reporter: and then for the first time on the trip, the duchess res
to do that, pakistan needs america's money. bbc news, washington. >>> nearly two years after those american hikers were captured and taken to an iranian prison the only one to be released is pushing to bring her friend and fiance home. sarah shourd organized a rally in duluth, minnesota, for shane bauer and josh fattal, hoping to bring attention back to the men. the iranians accuse the hikers of being american spies. the hikers say they accidentally wandered across the border....
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the white house chef of staff confirmed the united states is with holding aid to pakistan. they are with holding back about $850 million in aid and equipment for the army of pakistan. tensions have been on the rise since the raid and killing of bin laden in may. officials have been angry over the incursion into their territory without permission while the white house has been worried about pakistan's ineffectiveness in fighting the taliban and al-qaeda. >> the truth is our relationship with them is complicated. they have been victim of huge amounts of terrorism, but right now they have take especially steps that have given us reason to pause on some of the aid we were giving and we are trying to work through that. >> also is pakistan expelling pakistan military trainers. >> about a hundred people are missing tonight after a deadly boat accident in russia. nearly two hundred people were on board the double decker tourist boat when it sank in. two bodies have been recovered. survivors say it sank so fast they could only release one life boat and some ships wouldn't come help.
the white house chef of staff confirmed the united states is with holding aid to pakistan. they are with holding back about $850 million in aid and equipment for the army of pakistan. tensions have been on the rise since the raid and killing of bin laden in may. officials have been angry over the incursion into their territory without permission while the white house has been worried about pakistan's ineffectiveness in fighting the taliban and al-qaeda. >> the truth is our relationship...
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and pakistan. white house chief of staff william daly says it's in response to pakistan's decision to cut back on counterterrorism operations after the killing of osama bin laden. the u.s. typically gives pakistan more than $2 billion a year in security assistance. >>> u.s. joint chiefs of staff admiral -- chairman admiral mike mullen says china should no longer be described as a rising power, declaring it's a full-fledged world power hp he made the remarks at the start of a four-day visit to beijing. he called on china to become a global partner in addressing security challenges in asia and beyond. >>> jay si dugard speaking about her 18 years in captivity at the hands of philly and nancy garrido. she was 11 when kidnapped by garrido, a convicted sex offender, as she was walking to school. she talked about the long, horrifying ordeal with abc's diane sawyer. >> you would never know what she survived unless you notice how her face changes when she speaks of the past and the charm around her neck, a
and pakistan. white house chief of staff william daly says it's in response to pakistan's decision to cut back on counterterrorism operations after the killing of osama bin laden. the u.s. typically gives pakistan more than $2 billion a year in security assistance. >>> u.s. joint chiefs of staff admiral -- chairman admiral mike mullen says china should no longer be described as a rising power, declaring it's a full-fledged world power hp he made the remarks at the start of a four-day...
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pakistan has a lot of u.s. trainers that have been working intensely with their special forces, and as a result of that, withheld some of the decade that went with them. they also repelled some of the partnership on the war on terrorism, so to speak. they are still trying to gauge that. for now, in the past, the key relationship between the u.s. and pakistan and the military have been between admiral mullen and his pakistan counterpart, the army chief of staff. i think that this point, the u.s. is still trying to weigh what they can do to move this cooperation forward with pakistan. host: the defense policy reporter a bloomberg news, thank you for being on the "washington journal." joining us now at the c-span table is stephanie sanok, a senior fellow at the center for strategic and international studies. she is here to continue the discussion regarding u.s. policy in afghanistan and iraq. tell us from your perspective what the message of defense secretary panetta posture to afghanistan and iraq was? guest: i t
pakistan has a lot of u.s. trainers that have been working intensely with their special forces, and as a result of that, withheld some of the decade that went with them. they also repelled some of the partnership on the war on terrorism, so to speak. they are still trying to gauge that. for now, in the past, the key relationship between the u.s. and pakistan and the military have been between admiral mullen and his pakistan counterpart, the army chief of staff. i think that this point, the u.s....
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did north korea's rush lead it to pakistan? a secret letter that might hold some clues is in the hands of a washington reporter. >>> a court hearing this howard for jared loughner. his doctors say he's dangerous even behind bars. >>> in bring, the popular "news of the world" is done after this sunday, but the investigation is not over, and journalists aren't the only target of investigators. you're in "the situation room." >>> a lot of hard bargaining ahead as the president and congressional leaders try to hammer out a deal on raising the federal debt limit as the august 2nd deadline looms, most parties are firming up their bottom lines. joining me now is senator tom coburn from oklahoma. senator, i know that you have today pentagon with speaker boehner about the republican position, or at least his position going into these debt talks. what can you tell me about where you are now when it comes to the revenue side of this equation? >> well, i think speaker boehner related that everything is on the table. i think it should be. i
did north korea's rush lead it to pakistan? a secret letter that might hold some clues is in the hands of a washington reporter. >>> a court hearing this howard for jared loughner. his doctors say he's dangerous even behind bars. >>> in bring, the popular "news of the world" is done after this sunday, but the investigation is not over, and journalists aren't the only target of investigators. you're in "the situation room." >>> a lot of hard...
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. >> pakistan. >> it is. harold ford, make no mistake of it. i saw this as a small government conservative. i say this as a free market capitalist. i will tell you a lot of people who voted for pat buchan nab two times for president would agree with me here that if you have hedge fund managers pays significantly less in taxes, our secretaries, our schoolteachers, if you have the largest corporations on the planet paying 0% in u.s. taxes, that is going to cause eventually social unrest. that's not a democratic issue or a republican issue. >> that's a problem. >> global financial institutions including imf made clear -- this challenge, unemployment and the growing disparity are the greatest threats. the question i have for dr. brzenszki, this morning, what advice would you have to achieve the most articulate and succinct frame -- i heard your frame of it, why we find ousts in this mess, the kind of shared sacrifi sacrifice. a week away from it. how do you do it, doctor. >> i think the majority in this country which involves moderate and responsib
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>>shepard: this is about pakistan anyway, isn't it? >>guest: well, the reason we got into this mess is because of pakistan in the 1980's and we pumped $6 million into the system creating the monsters we are fighting now. keep in mind if you step back and look at global stage the world is better but it is a direct threat against american interests overseas from islamic fundamentalist groups that use violence instead of political means. >>shepard: robert, good to hear from you. the united nations has reported 1,462 civilian deaths in six months of this year in afghanistan a 15 percent increase from the first half of 2010. in parts of the midwest in the central united states, another day of triple digit temperatures. the heat wave is a monster. i know, it's july. it's hot, but this can kill people. 17 states are now under heat warnings and we will show you warnings and we will show you all of them. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal. carol. fiber makes me
>>shepard: this is about pakistan anyway, isn't it? >>guest: well, the reason we got into this mess is because of pakistan in the 1980's and we pumped $6 million into the system creating the monsters we are fighting now. keep in mind if you step back and look at global stage the world is better but it is a direct threat against american interests overseas from islamic fundamentalist groups that use violence instead of political means. >>shepard: robert, good to hear from you....
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this bill would provide for another $1 billion to pakistan, the pakistani government and pakistan, they are not our friends. why are we borrowing money from china to give to a government that has betrayed us time and time again? therefore i urge adoption of my amendment to eliminate any funding in this appropriations bill from going to pakistan and i reserve the balance of my time. i yield back the blaps of my time. the chair: for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr. dicks: i rise in opposition to the gentleman's amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. mr. dicks: the bill includes approximately $2.4 billion for the pakistani military. $1.1 billion is for the pakistani counterinsurgency fund and approximately $1.3 billion is for other funds. coalition support funds are used to reimburse the pakistani military for operations which generally support u.s. counterterrorism objectives. in the wake of osama bin laden's killing by u.s. special forces, serious questions have arisen about pakistan's reliability as a strategic partner. i agree with
this bill would provide for another $1 billion to pakistan, the pakistani government and pakistan, they are not our friends. why are we borrowing money from china to give to a government that has betrayed us time and time again? therefore i urge adoption of my amendment to eliminate any funding in this appropriations bill from going to pakistan and i reserve the balance of my time. i yield back the blaps of my time. the chair: for what purpose does the gentleman from washington rise? mr. dicks:...
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kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said, what are you nuts? all you're going to do is get both sides angry at you. so the administration has stayed away from that as the bush administration did, you know, kind of like it's poison, and that's probably the right policy. so the notion that this council could actually do much other than, you know, throw a few cocktail parties and actually influence u.s. policy, boy, what a waste of money. jon: all right. jim carafano from the heritage foundation. read more from him on foxnews.com on this topic. jim, thank you. jenna: new developments surrounding oper
kashmir is a flash point issue between india and pakistan. the last thing the united states is going to do is get in the middle of that issue because it would just probably anger both sides. matter of fact, there was, you know, there was a nut case argument when the obama administration came in, and people said, well, let's go solve the kashmir issue between india and pakistan, and then they'll both be great allies and help us fight al-qaeda. and, you know, people that know that issue said,...
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babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they hang them? >> they hang them and sometimes they're killed by knife and sometimes we find dead bodies that have been burned. >> reporter: a manager at pakistan's largest privately run social service and relief agency. at call centers like this, aid workers receive reports of more than 1,200 newborns and infants killed or left to die in pakistan last year, up 200 from 2009. the tiny corpses that are found end up in this morgue here. these five were found within the past few days, all of them double play pd around karachi. it's hard to believe that wrapped inside these sheets are newborns that never had a chance. a
babies just like these are being found in garbage dumps all around pakistan, thrown away by families who just don't want them just because they're girls. and girls, by the way, are considered a financial burden on families there. i want you to watch this report. >> reporter: it's in garbage piles like this where according to an aid group pakistan's worst tragedy is unfolding. the killing and dumping of newborn baby girls. >> sometimes they kill, they hang -- >> reporter: they...
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and security officers both inside and outside benghazi an international now happy hour to latif and pakistan solidarity campaign and she's one of the few people who's actually managed to come through you on the phone with the activists who are being interrogated here at the airport what are they telling you. this telling me that they were taken from passport control especially on the phone they said the heavy smoke coming in and they were about to be interrogated i actually think i literally slipped through the net just mean as far as i can tell there is only one of us there are forty or fifty people waiting hoping to be deported liking to be the bullshit and there's me so it's up to me to be their voice and to put forward the points of view especially people in the u.k. that there are people from belgium and from france and scotland from all over the u.k. waiting to come through i don't know why netanyahu wants to whip people's passions up the whole time as if we were a threat i mean look at me look at me i'm a british woman i can't deeply about peace and justice i care deeply about a just
and security officers both inside and outside benghazi an international now happy hour to latif and pakistan solidarity campaign and she's one of the few people who's actually managed to come through you on the phone with the activists who are being interrogated here at the airport what are they telling you. this telling me that they were taken from passport control especially on the phone they said the heavy smoke coming in and they were about to be interrogated i actually think i literally...
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and pakistan already rocky. now a shocking new accusation that could further embarrass the pakistani leadership. we are live with that story. court action in baseball stair e oeud sand cal as a judge makes a key ruling in the roger clemens face just ahead. remember you can take fox news with you. stay updated on what is happening around the world, wherever you are 24 hours a day, whatever your mobile device, get fox news alerts, stream live video and watch the latest clips from your favorite shows. go to foxnews.com/mobile and get more information. jon: some developing stories we're keeping an eye on here in the newsroom and from our control room. twin terror attacks in baghdad. a car bomb exploding first, an just as folks gathered to help the victims a roadside bomb goes off nearby. at least 35 people killed. word today that prosecutors will drop the sexual assault charges against dominic strauss-kahn. the "new york post" reports the dismissal of the case against the former monetary chief is a certainty. this a
and pakistan already rocky. now a shocking new accusation that could further embarrass the pakistani leadership. we are live with that story. court action in baseball stair e oeud sand cal as a judge makes a key ruling in the roger clemens face just ahead. remember you can take fox news with you. stay updated on what is happening around the world, wherever you are 24 hours a day, whatever your mobile device, get fox news alerts, stream live video and watch the latest clips from your favorite...
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is part of this to do with a chill in relations between pakistan and washington? >> it is indeed of course. of course. desai's been a secret war as you like conducted by the cia in pakistan using these unmanned aircraft. if one looks at the history of it, one can see how it is ramped up but now there are questions in the wake -- of course the vast majority of these raids have been carried out in so-called tribal areas on the border with afghanistan, and over the years the number has gone up steadily. in the first few years in the strikes of 2,042,007 they're just a handful and then we see it going up in 2010. the obama administration rising at a policy never fully publicly articulated. 118 strikes last year and 45 so far this year. the pakistanis said a couple of months ago that they wanted him stopped them stopped and they ordered the cia out in their base in pakistan were some of the strikes are being launched. by my reckoning there is than a dozen since then. so has this been done like the enlightened raid against the will of the pakistan government? put the wh
is part of this to do with a chill in relations between pakistan and washington? >> it is indeed of course. of course. desai's been a secret war as you like conducted by the cia in pakistan using these unmanned aircraft. if one looks at the history of it, one can see how it is ramped up but now there are questions in the wake -- of course the vast majority of these raids have been carried out in so-called tribal areas on the border with afghanistan, and over the years the number has gone...
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it becomes all the more so now that relations between pakistan and the u.s. have become so fraught and tangled. >> very interesting. thank you very much. back to our main story tonight, tickets to tomorrows a counter to see rupert murdoch, james murdoch, and the committee, he might have more tickets than they let the games, but what will the committee want to know? days do not get much bigger for committee members then tomorrow, do they? >> no, it is a rather dramatic it. it is like one of those days where you have the streak of back-to-back football matches on television. we saw a bit after 12:00 with paul stevenson resigning last night at the home affairs committee. then at all switches to the culture committee, starting off with a double header. rupert murdoch, his son, followed by rebecca birks. it is going to be the most interesting moment. strongest thing is that in 42 years, all the newspapers in this country, rupert murdoch's has never answered questions from our economy select committee. the committee is going to meet and decide thinking being that i
it becomes all the more so now that relations between pakistan and the u.s. have become so fraught and tangled. >> very interesting. thank you very much. back to our main story tonight, tickets to tomorrows a counter to see rupert murdoch, james murdoch, and the committee, he might have more tickets than they let the games, but what will the committee want to know? days do not get much bigger for committee members then tomorrow, do they? >> no, it is a rather dramatic it. it is like...
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actually even states has it's been slow not even talking about pakistan so it is a it is a very very difficult situation in syria the united states probably i think could be the feeling here would probably be. that this is who should be involved in all right ted rall columnist north are talking to us from florida thanks very much thank you. now this is final shuttle flights blasted off with up to a million spectators witnessing the historic launch it is the balls the one hundred thirty fifth mission in the thirty year history of america's space shuttle program exposed some warned of a high chance of the launch would be delayed by bad weather but in the end as you can see there the astronauts left earth with just a delay but a minute or two the clock stopped temporarily as it was counting down to thirty one seconds and then started again i thought is going to should count reports now it was also calling it a moment of course for those who devoted their lives to this program. empty shells of what was once florida's thriving space coast. up to ten thousand people will be out of a job as
actually even states has it's been slow not even talking about pakistan so it is a it is a very very difficult situation in syria the united states probably i think could be the feeling here would probably be. that this is who should be involved in all right ted rall columnist north are talking to us from florida thanks very much thank you. now this is final shuttle flights blasted off with up to a million spectators witnessing the historic launch it is the balls the one hundred thirty fifth...
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look at what is happening with pakistan. there are questions about whether or not pakistan is really our friend or our foe. the second thing about foreign policy experience, you do not have to have had extensive foreign policy experience to know how to listen to the experts. president obama just announced his withdrawal plan from afghanistan. he didn't listen to general petraeus. he didn't listen to admiral mullen. they have again on record as saying it was more aggressive than they thought. common sense says, you don't reduce your force by a third and announce it to your enemy in order to fulfill some political promise. what kind of foreign experience do you need to listen to your experts in order to be able to make the right decision? >> sean: you came under fire early in the campaign. i never saw you mad before. you got sick and tired of answering the question about muslims in your administration. >> yes. >> sean: a reporter asked you again and you off on him a little. tell us your real position and what happened? >> thro
look at what is happening with pakistan. there are questions about whether or not pakistan is really our friend or our foe. the second thing about foreign policy experience, you do not have to have had extensive foreign policy experience to know how to listen to the experts. president obama just announced his withdrawal plan from afghanistan. he didn't listen to general petraeus. he didn't listen to admiral mullen. they have again on record as saying it was more aggressive than they thought....
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threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and effectively helping to kill americans and other nato forces there. what are they saying about that? >> well, wolf, it doesn't make sense when you look ate from an american perspective. when i was in pakistan earlier this year, pakistani officials are very concerned about two things. they feel a threat from india. they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence
threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and...
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iraq afghanistan pakistan libya we're bombing yemen. i'm known for getting a couple here we've got a company tens because one hundred countries from what i understand will actively but i mean we perform an extraordinary rendition oh it's just it's so it's so hard to keep track of the empire these days but now it's really like it's in your face and it's undeniable with this why is it that the temptation of a standing army allows our government to get away with this because it's the surat of it or afraid of it being. necessary for security is just. under with it right well you know with this new congress they they started by reading the constitution you know and that was a lot of the tea party influence the new congressmen that were elected i remember the green party and you know i think there's a lot of people who are genuinely interested in the founding principles and when you go to those events you hear a lot about the founding fathers some people are wandering around it's recurrent hats or whatever and i don't mean do to make fun beca
iraq afghanistan pakistan libya we're bombing yemen. i'm known for getting a couple here we've got a company tens because one hundred countries from what i understand will actively but i mean we perform an extraordinary rendition oh it's just it's so it's so hard to keep track of the empire these days but now it's really like it's in your face and it's undeniable with this why is it that the temptation of a standing army allows our government to get away with this because it's the surat of it...